Spoiler Alert: The story contains spoilers from Season 2, episode 5 of "Our Last" and is now streaming on Max.

Tati Gabrielle's audience holds their breath in the latest episode, for several reasons. Her character, WLF member Nora, not only became the first victim of the airborne spores displayed in the series, but she also longed to find the brutal beating at the hands of Kaitlyn Dever's Ellie (Bella Ramsey) for exact revenge.

"Sabrina's Indifference Adventure" and "You" alumni Gabrielle have become the darling of "Our Last Us" developer Naughty Dog, previously appeared in the "Unknown" film adaptation and in the studio's highly anticipated next game, "Intergalactic: Intergalactic: Hearetic Project: The Heretic Project: The Heretic Project: The Heretic Project:". The actor has an undeniable effervescent even in the cracks of dawn, and he can’t wait to lead the franchise. "The kid inside me is screaming! I'm on the moon. I don't actually have words," she said.

Gabrielle talks type About Nora's painful death, working with Ramsey, and the real feeling of Cordyceps infection she imagined.

When Ellie faces Nora about Abby killing Joel, Nora plays first and looks sympathetic, then switches to that boiling line, "The little bitch gets what he deserves." How did you get close to that moment?

I think the apology she gave to Ellie and the narrative of memory, and I hope it's all honest, because I think Nora is different from Abby, but twists a different attitude. It is not only pure revenge, but also pure anger. I think Nora believes that justice must be served in some way, but from a seemingly flat position, there are flaws. I think Nora hopes to apologize fairly to Ellie. Back to memory, I think this is something Nora still wrestled with: it doesn't fall like the way we expected it to fall. That wasn't what Abby told us. She just said she wanted to kill him. She didn't say she wanted to defeat him meaninglessly to be that cruel person.

I think for Nora, she goes through it every night, watching it play and happening in her mind again, traumatized by it, but it has to be driven away and justified: "No, no. He really got what he deserved. He was doomed to all of us. He killed all of us." Not even just Abby's father. Now is the entire fucking range of this planet. That man screwed everyone up. He denied our future. He denied any hope we had. I hope it feels fair, but I also need you to hear it from me. Yes, that little bitch got what he deserved.

The director of this episode, Stephen Williams, told my colleagues that his priority is to create a safe environment for you and Bella in the confrontation. What does the scene look like?

Too fun because especially in the chase in the elevator, Stephen, bless him as such a father. Uncle Energy! On the elevator shaft, there is a view that is actually using places I am not getting to the right foot. I got rid of the shaft when the elevator actually fell. That was when Stephen called the day. I was like, "No, we're going to do it again! I can do the right thing this time!" He held my hand. It's like he's my father, he's like, "No, my heart can't accept it anymore, so we complete. ” Stephen wants to always make sure we are fine!

Bella, too! With the beating, Bella wanted to make sure they didn’t hit me too hard. They don't! I was like, "Cry! I fixed you for two hours! Let's do it!" Generally speaking, I just like the experience in the show because the cast and crew reflected on the show. Have a family, care. When I tried to cough my lungs, everyone made sure there was water and there was tea. I'm really grateful.

Speaking of coughing, this episode introduces the concept of airborne spores into the series. How did you and the team catch your infection in this way?

This is something I really talked about with Craig (Mazin). Craig hopes it's on top. He wanted to make science as real as possible. Have you ever seen Cordyceps take over insects or something? I asked Craig all the questions: "She is inhaling. We'll point very much to the back and forth conversation because I want it to be as real as possible. Her nervous system has been taken over by this thing. Her lungs are filled with substances that our lungs usually don't have. It's not choking. This is what Craig said. Technically, she can breathe, but it's not easy. There's more tension in your body. The little twitch is because it's the brain thing: she's trying to struggle to keep her mind enough to get rid of what she said to Ellie. You'll go against your will and go crazy quickly. Any means of survival stick to humanity, stick to yourself. It's probably the hardest thing I've ever had as an actor. It's almost easy to say the last thing after death. It's much harder when you're actually not dead at all. You're just consumed by something inside and out.

Nora's death in the game and series marks a turning point in Ellie's total consumption of anger and sadness. What was it like to make those moments with Bella?

I'm afraid of them! Bella is so sweet. Between each shot, look at me, "How are you?" This belief really helped me in Bella's opinion, because Nora was influenced by Ellie's determination. It makes Nora feel like, "Oh, we're just fucking. You don't care about your answer, let alone he's doomed to us all. We don't have a future because of what your "dad" did." It's fun to feel their air conditioning. "Fun" may be a strange word, but Once was pleasure. Knowing that Bella is normal on the contrary, this greatly helped me find where I needed it. It's beautiful.

This interview has been edited and condensed.