"Our Last" director breaks the confrontation between Ellie and Nora

Spoiler Alert: This story contains spoilers from HBO's "Last Last Episode" Season 2 and is now streaming on Max.

Joel (Pedro Pascal) The Tragic Death After Joel (Pedro Pascal)’s tragic death in Episode 2, Ellie (Bella Ramsey) pursues revenge and is taken to a whole new level in the latest episode of The Last Us.

This is because after Ellie tracked Tati Gabrielle, Abby, the main member of the Washington Liberation Front, killed Joel and tortured Nora in Abby for information on Abby's whereabouts. After turning Nora with a gun and hitting a tube into her belly, Ellie asked: "Where is she?"

This is a point that has no reward.

But, throughout the episode, Joel’s influence is felt in quieter moments. When Ellie plays guitar to an empty theater, a particularly exciting scene recalls her time with Joel very early. Director Stephen Williams, a newbie to “Our Last World,” explained that the scene was filmed at the Orpheum Theatre in Vancouver and that when Ramsey finished singing, everyone on the scene was literally “Damp Eyed.”

"It's an evocative moment - when Ellie goes through and remurs Joel's brutal murder, it's so sad, full of desire, and heartbreak. It continues to haunt her and discovers this incredible expression through her music." type. "Bella stood up, grabbed the instrument and delivered- crushed it. We just recorded the glory that appeared before us."

The episode also sees the return of familiar faces, mainly Jesse (Young Mazino), and what we learn is that they lag behind Ellie and Dina (Isabela Merced) the day after they head to Seattle. Below, Williams explains how Jesse's good-time return reminds Ellie of how he sees the emotional moments between Ellie and Dina, with a nervous action-setting kit, and why his approach is just "off the route" when guiding the tense final confrontation.

Ellie faces Nora's finale about Abby so intense that Ellie actually knows that Joel kills everyone in the hospital to save her. Knowing the importance of this endnote, how did you deal with the shooting?

Most of the way we handle the work on "Our Last" comes first from scripts by Craig Mazin and Neil Druckmann, obviously characters developed from the game. If Season 1 focuses specifically on the concept of endurance and survival, Season 2 will dig into issues about revenge and mercy. In the climate scene of episode 5, Ellie faces Nora, which really depends on Ellie's decision to continue seeking revenge for everything Abby and Abby and Abby and their crew have done to Joel.

Especially Bella Ramsey, who was so strong back then. How did you guide Bella and Tati Gabrielle, who had built trust with each other before they were creatively involved in “Our Last Man”?

Bella is the power of nature. They were dialed in, so brilliantly inhabiting the role that I had to say to them. I really have to stay away. Tati, who plays Nora, then does an incredible job throughout the plot. They are both very committed to the material and working on how their characters work in everything that is built on site. This is really about creating a safe environment for both of them to perform.

It was amazing to see Jesse (Young Mazino) return to action. Since this episode is very focused on Ellie and Dina, getting Jesse back really changed the dynamic and energy, so how did you repay him?

There is a growing and smooth love triangle between Jesse, Ellie and Dina. When Ellie and Dina set out to Seattle to seek revenge on Abby and her crew, Jesse is belatedly followed and appears at a very lucky time, with Ellie and Dina finding themselves under the identity of some infected people. For a moment, Ellie is saved by Jesse’s timely arrival, which reminds her of her experiences with Joel on many different occasions in Season 1.

The sequence when Jesse returns is a huge fixture in the basement. Are there critical visual references when creating?

The first thing we have to do is make sure this is not just a big action kit. We will fix the character in the context of all subsequent actions. The trick is never to ignore the characters involved in the scene. In this case, it's about Ellie's protection for Dina, who is extremely coerced and Ellie's responsibility for Dina and desperately tries to make sure they are both alive. Apparently, this became his character when Jesse arrived.

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This episode features the first time the audience actually saw the Scar Pian’s action after the introduction in Episode 3. How do you think of how they move as packaging?

Part of this season is that we begin to explore how different factions of humanity deal with the extreme circumstances they are in. Therefore, the Washington Liberation Front attempted to rotate about the axis of the militia, while serum or scars were dedicated to their environment by dedicating them to their environment. In our plot, we will use some explanation of faith based on some extreme representations of each choice as a way to resolve extreme situations. Sometimes it can lead to very graphic descriptions that I think many viewers will see in our plot.

With the opening interrogation scene between two WLF leaders, you trust the audience very much because it will take a while to figure out what’s going on in the new infection or even what’s going on. Is this a difficult choice?

The episode begins with a very mysterious note, introducing a new way in which Cordyceps infectious disease manages to spread itself. It will take some time for the audience to catch up, as they did at the end of the plot with Nora. But at the beginning, the audience is in the same position as the characters, as they just encountered the aerial form of this mutant infection in a novel way. So I think it is possible to temporarily disoriented the audience until later on the revelation of the spores produced by these aerial spores and the extent to which they invade this particular facility in Seattle.

With Ellie and Dina’s dynamics, there’s a huge turning point in episode 4, when Dina tells Ellie that she loves her for the first time. How did you weave this incredible intimacy when their lives are so severely threatened? Their relationship is like the key to the whole season.

One thing Craig and Neil did a great job of building the series was the creation of these intimate moments between characters set against the epic setting context. The interaction between these elements gives the narrative an incredible sense of rooting as we experience our characters and what it feels like in this horrible situation. Life continues to move forward, love continues, emotions continues, attachment and revenge, revenge, anger, anger proceeds simultaneously. All of this is part of the complex character interconnection.

Finally, the last flash before the points show the tender memories of Ellie and Joel. Why did this episode end the right moment?

Everything about this season has been about reward since Episode 2, and this incredible emotional stew Ellie has experienced. Loss, heartbroken and the unexplained thing between her and Joel is the motivational metronome behind all the narrative beats. The episode ends with Ellie’s memories of Joel well suited – especially after the intense scenes before that. This is the correct tone transmission.

This interview has been edited and condensed.