Spoiler Alert: This story contains the 6th episode of "Mrs. Table" of the destroyer, "hacks", now streaming on Max.

In the final moments of "The Hacker" season three, writer Ava Daniels (Hannah Einbinder) drives the heart of a multifaceted relationship with Joan Rivers-style comedian Jean Smart. By extorting Deborah to become the lead writer in the freshly ordered "Late Night with Deborah Vance", but Ava gained a dream job but lost trust based on the core of "hacks". Of course, Ava would argue that Deborah first revoked her initial job opportunities out of fear and insecurity.

More than half of Season 4 - plus splashed Blancino, Coyote-skinned Corki and some sage suggestions from guest star Rosie O'Donnell to get Deborah and Ava back to where they know each other. So far, they have been trapped in a less-lucky war, with the mean "prank" so subversive that the network puts the duo in the third round in HR Lady Stacy (Michaela Watkins). Episode 6, "The Lady of the Table" is a bad, very bad day story that ends up breaking the ice between our two anti-heroes.

When Xueer dropped her guest attractions ("She, Quote, 'Don't Want'"), the "Late Night" producer drew Ava's actress former Ruby (Lorenza Izzo) as a backup. Ava desperately wants to impress Ruby for Deborah's joke, just to get a capricious fighting Deborah cancels this entirely and uses time to explore Ruby's embarrassing Ava story on national television. Ava adds to the hurt insult, realizes that her writer does not have her group chats and continues to order extravagant lunches with her dime - she is abandoned when she tries to distract herself from the couple she interacts with.

Deborah is on his own journey. Her daughter DJ (Kaitlin Olson) is not even willing to ask Deborah to give birth to her first grandson. Her beloved Corgi was attacked because Deborah forgot to close the door, and O'Donnell noted that Deborah's recent success was obviously because of something or someone who helped her escalate. So when Ava snapped up in the angry background gate, quit and drove, Deborah actually felt gentle enough to track her to the beach where they finally had a heart of the heart.

“It feels like a turning point,” Einbind said of making the final night of the season. In an interview type, The Emmy-nominated actor discusses the bond between Deborah and Ava, many aspects of the Los Angeles Mall culture, and why shooting Ava’s total collapse was “a real treatment.”

I have to say that this season, I am the target of a Chevrolet Bolt driver who lives in Los Angeles. It feels like a specific type of person driving, and both Ava and I are.

OK, my comrade, I salute you.

By this point this season, what is it like to play Ava and Deborah so publicly?

It was definitely fun for Jean and me. We love portraying all the purposes of these characters. After we do this cute fight, we will be puppy faces between each other and say, “No!” But no matter what we do, we will be happy.

I like Ava throwing at Branzino. It reminds me of that scene in "Sex and the City" where Carrie threw McDonald's on the wall.

Oh my god, wait - it's true. That's so iconic.

How does it feel to shoot Ava's complete and total collapse?

That's a real treatment. I feel that even in the context of playing a role, expelling anger is actually therapeutic. It's absolutely exhausting, and can exert so much emotion, but it's really cathartic. As far as Blancino throws are concerned, that's my athleticism. I do try to perform in precise form and accuracy to get Branzino to hit a specific location on the window so that the lens on the other side can capture it. It's a strong, comprehensive performance challenge.

Sorry, I should really ask you how Well-trained to this end.

Thanks. This is a more accurate term.

The fact that it happens in the writer's room is so interesting because after three seasons to Deborah you'll put Ava in authority and manage it to others. What challenges did her experience challenge her?

I think we look at Ava After being the lead writer with a certain number of idealisms. She wanted to create a positive and very respectful work environment and eventually spread throughout the process. Ava and Deborah engage in this philosophical battle on the right way to be someone else’s boss. Ultimately, I think both AVA and Deborah’s view on this are valid. But Ava swings Very It's a moderate way to the opposite direction.

Do you think this helps Ava become her boss' sympathy?

To be fair. She really has to play that role and to really feel what Deborah is trying to give her. I think the only way out is to pass.

The climax of this episode is a beautiful conversation you have on the beach. What was the situation like when shooting that scene?

I mean, that was the last day we filmed, so it was definitely emotional. We filmed for six months, so it was just for ourselves, especially for our crew. There is a general feeling: "Okay, this is the end of the road." Finally there is such a high, and then there is this lifestyle change where you are not there for 13 or 14 hours a day. Therefore, there are many physical emotions in our bodies. It’s this emotional climax on the show, and, we’re weaving the actual reality of what we live in, it’s the end of this season. Whether in exhibitions or in reality, it feels like a turning point.

An earlier episode was specifically targeted at people affected by the Los Angeles fire. What is it like in Los Angeles when everything happened and the focus of the show moved to Los Angeles?

We were able to recognize Los Angeles in this way, and it was really influential - frankly, just like we always did. It's a proof of our show, and it's a huge blessing that we have enough privilege to work in Los Angeles, although it shouldn't be privilege. Often, we are always grateful to be able to do this, but it does make sense to be able to highlight it and call it out.

The moment that really resonated with me was watching Deborah tell Ava her voice, all the emotions swept over you. What do you think Ava is doing at that moment?

Super layered. I don't think she wants to participate. I think she wants to believe Deborah. I think she was exhausted from such a crazy breakdown. And I think it all happens at the same time. I'm just trying to paint these layers as much as possible.

On the other hand, do you think Deborah is finally able to become vulnerable with Ava again?

Deborah has this feeling, and she will never lose the AVA anyway. After testing, I think it forces her to really realize what (AVA) means. I also think the conversation between her and Rosie O'Donnell helped her look at herself - helping her see how Ava affects her, and how much impact she is in now. Frankly, facing the fact that, as we see outside Winnie Lindell's house, Ava thinks they'll be on the truce. Early in the season, she was really ready to squeeze this beef. Deborah perseveres. Deborah knew this. She knew she was punishing her. That's her style. So, in default and going to Ava say, “Let’s end this, the ball is really on her court.”

When you say she wishes she would always have AVA, do you mean taking Ava for granted?

That's also, Deborah can do whatever she wants. She can slap (ava) in her face. She could fire her. She could lie to her. All of this serious things happening - Ava is still there and so loyal to her fact that she just thinks there is no limit, and Ava shows her that, yes, there is actually a limit. I think that makes her a reality.

When you say Ava doesn't want to be withdrawn, what do you think makes her willing to really put her doubts on the end of the conversation?

I think this is what Deborah puts forward and means they have no loss. Plus, she was watching Deborah Vance, who was soaked after coming out of the ocean at night. That was a grand gesture. That's what Ava knows is really desperate. This is a huge act of dedication. It was a big part of my initial attempt to predict her face, and she said to Deborah, “Thank you for trying to save my life. I know that’s one of your best coats.” Whatever that line. I think Ava really understands people like Deborah Vance entering the ocean - it makes sense.

As an actor, have Deborah and Ava moved forward from this point to better conditions?

Yes! It was so fun to play love between the two of them. Always happy. And we are really happy to be back to this point.

I think this episode coexists Ava's romantic life with her relationship with Deborah. How do you think of those two telling each other?

In one scene, Ava is abandoned and they say, "It sounds like you're not over your ex." I think Ava thinks Deborah at that moment, maybe not Ruby. This relationship between the two of them is tracked like a romance. The story itself is like romance. There is a lot of fusion between Ava and Deborah. One is at that level - not necessarily romantic, but just in the space occupied for people. In addition, Ava has no good relationship with her mother, and Deborah has no good relationship with her daughter. Both of them got almost a second chance with this dynamic. So I think it's just layered. This is this core relationship in her life, do you know? She is the place to avoid it because she is really afraid of being hurt and dedicating her heart to another person or person.

Last: As an Angeleno, I'm very happy to see Glendale Americana representative this season. Are you also a devotee to that mall?

I have to say I'm a city mall girl for a century. That was the shopping mall that raised me. That was the shopping mall in my growing up. I respect Americans and the place that people have. I want to respect this. But, for me, it's always about Westfield Century City. I also know that I didn't jazz on Caruso property all of this, but I'm sure Mr. Westfield wasn't that good either. I don't think there is capitalist moral consumption. But yes, I'm a city bitch for a century.

This interview has been edited and condensed.